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preexisting chemical elements. Is that correct?
Srila Prabhupada. Yes. For example, the earth contains everything
necessary for a plant to grow, but you must first put a seed in the
earth. Similarly, a mother has within her womb all the necessary
ingredients for creating another body, but the father must first inject
the semen, or seed, into the womb; then the child will develop. A dog
forms a dog's body, and a human forms a human body. Why? Because all the
required ingredients are there, respectively.
We find a certain quantity of chemicals in my body, a smaller
quantity in an ant's body, and a greater quantity in an elephant's body.
So, if I can create so many more chemicals than an ant, and an elephant
can create so many more chemicals than I can, then just think how many
more chemicals God can create! This is the basis on which scientists
should consider how hydrogen and oxygen combine to form water.
Otherwise, they cannot identify the source of the vast quantities of
hydrogen and oxygen required to make the oceans. But we can. This
hydrogen and oxygen exist in the virat-rupa, the universal body of the
Lord. Why do the scientists fail to understand this plain truth?
Hydrogen and oxygen combine to form the water in the seas. We both
accept this fact. But the scientists are surprised to hear that the
origin of this huge quantity of hydrogen and oxygen is actually acintya-
sakti, or the inconceivable mystic power of the Lord.
The Definition of "Life"
Dr. Singh. I have noticed a disagreement within the scientific community
over the definition of living and nonliving. Some say that if a being
can reproduce, it is alive. Therefore, they claim to have created life
because certain large DNA molecules[14] produced in the laboratory can
replicate themselves; that is, they can reproduce other chains of
molecules by their own power. Some scientists say these DNA molecules
are living, and others say they are not.
Srila Prabhupada. Because somebody is saying one thing and somebody is
saying another, their knowledge must be imperfect.
Dr. Singh. Can we define living as "containing consciousness" and
nonliving as "without consciousness"?
Srila Prabhupada. Yes, that is the difference. As Krsna says in the
Bhagavad-gita (2.17), avinasi tu tad viddhi yena sarvam idam tatam:
"That which is spread all over the body is indestructible." Anyone can
understand what is spread all over a living body; it is consciousness.
According to our consciousness at the time of death, we are awarded a
particular bodily shape. If you have a dog's consciousness, you will get
a dog's body, and if you have a godly consciousness, you get a demigod's
body.[15] Krsna gives everyone the freedom to take whatever body he
wants:
yanti deva-vrata devan
pitrn yanti pitr-vratah
bhutani yanti bhutejya
yanti mad-yajino 'pi mam
"Those who worship the demigods will take birth among the demigods;
those who worship ghosts and spirits will take birth among such beings;
those who worship ancestors go to the ancestors; and those who worship
Me will live with Me." (Bg. 9.25)
Darwin Condemned
Dr. Singh. If a human being doesn't attain liberation, does he have to
pass through all 8,400,000 species of life before again coming to the
human form?
Srila Prabhupada. No, only in the lower forms of life does the living
entity progress step by step, according to the laws of nature. In the
human form of life, he is endowed with developed consciousness--he has
discretion. Therefore if he is advanced in consciousness, he is not
going to get the body of a dog or cat; he will get another human body.
prapya punya-krtam lokan
usitva sasvatih samah
sucinam srimatam gehe
yoga-brasto 'bhijayate[16]
The word yoga-bhrastah refers to someone practicing yoga who
somehow or other could not fully succeed. There's no question of
evolution here; he is again awarded a human body. He does not get a
cat's body or a dog's body. As with the apartments we were discussing,
if you can pay more, you get a nicer apartment. You do not have to come
to the lower-class apartment first.
Dr. Singh. What you have been saying completely contradicts Darwin's
theory of evolution.
Srila Prabhupada. Darwin is a rascal. What is his theory? We kick out
Darwin's philosophy. The more we kick out Darwin's philosophy, the more
we advance in spiritual consciousness.
Dr. Singh. Many scientists doubt Darwin's theories. But Darwin's
supporters say that life started from matter and evolved from
unicellular organisms to multicellular organisms. They believe that
higher species like animals and men did not exist at the beginning of
creation.
Srila Prabhupada. Darwin and his followers are rascals. If originally
there were no higher species, why do they exist now? Also, why do the
lower species still exist? For example, at the present moment we see
both the intellectual person and the foolish ass. Why do both these
entities exist simultaneously? Why hasn't the ass form evolved upward
and disappeared? Why do we never see a monkey giving birth to a human?
The Darwinists' theory that human life began in such and such an era is
nonsense. Bhagavad-gita says that you can directly transmigrate to any
species of life you like, according to your efforts. Sometimes I travel
to America, sometimes to Australia and sometimes to Africa. The
countries already exist. I am simply traveling through them. It is not
that because I have come to America, I have createdor become America.
And there are many countries I have not yet seen. Does that mean they do
not exist? The scientists who support Darwin are nonsensical.
Bhagavad-gita clearly says that all the species exist
simultaneously, and that you can go to whichever species you like. You
can even go up to the kingdom of God, if you so desire. All this is
declared in Bhagavad-gita by Lord Krsna.
The Ninth Morning Walk
Recorded on May 13, 1973,
Srila Prabhupada is accompanied by Dr. Singh, Karandhara dasa adhikari
and other students.
Evolution From Human to Dog
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preexisting chemical elements. Is that correct?
Srila Prabhupada. Yes. For example, the earth contains everything
necessary for a plant to grow, but you must first put a seed in the
earth. Similarly, a mother has within her womb all the necessary
ingredients for creating another body, but the father must first inject
the semen, or seed, into the womb; then the child will develop. A dog
forms a dog's body, and a human forms a human body. Why? Because all the
required ingredients are there, respectively.
We find a certain quantity of chemicals in my body, a smaller
quantity in an ant's body, and a greater quantity in an elephant's body.
So, if I can create so many more chemicals than an ant, and an elephant
can create so many more chemicals than I can, then just think how many
more chemicals God can create! This is the basis on which scientists
should consider how hydrogen and oxygen combine to form water.
Otherwise, they cannot identify the source of the vast quantities of
hydrogen and oxygen required to make the oceans. But we can. This
hydrogen and oxygen exist in the virat-rupa, the universal body of the
Lord. Why do the scientists fail to understand this plain truth?
Hydrogen and oxygen combine to form the water in the seas. We both
accept this fact. But the scientists are surprised to hear that the
origin of this huge quantity of hydrogen and oxygen is actually acintya-
sakti, or the inconceivable mystic power of the Lord.
The Definition of "Life"
Dr. Singh. I have noticed a disagreement within the scientific community
over the definition of living and nonliving. Some say that if a being
can reproduce, it is alive. Therefore, they claim to have created life
because certain large DNA molecules[14] produced in the laboratory can
replicate themselves; that is, they can reproduce other chains of
molecules by their own power. Some scientists say these DNA molecules
are living, and others say they are not.
Srila Prabhupada. Because somebody is saying one thing and somebody is
saying another, their knowledge must be imperfect.
Dr. Singh. Can we define living as "containing consciousness" and
nonliving as "without consciousness"?
Srila Prabhupada. Yes, that is the difference. As Krsna says in the
Bhagavad-gita (2.17), avinasi tu tad viddhi yena sarvam idam tatam:
"That which is spread all over the body is indestructible." Anyone can
understand what is spread all over a living body; it is consciousness.
According to our consciousness at the time of death, we are awarded a
particular bodily shape. If you have a dog's consciousness, you will get
a dog's body, and if you have a godly consciousness, you get a demigod's
body.[15] Krsna gives everyone the freedom to take whatever body he
wants:
yanti deva-vrata devan
pitrn yanti pitr-vratah
bhutani yanti bhutejya
yanti mad-yajino 'pi mam
"Those who worship the demigods will take birth among the demigods;
those who worship ghosts and spirits will take birth among such beings;
those who worship ancestors go to the ancestors; and those who worship
Me will live with Me." (Bg. 9.25)
Darwin Condemned
Dr. Singh. If a human being doesn't attain liberation, does he have to
pass through all 8,400,000 species of life before again coming to the
human form?
Srila Prabhupada. No, only in the lower forms of life does the living
entity progress step by step, according to the laws of nature. In the
human form of life, he is endowed with developed consciousness--he has
discretion. Therefore if he is advanced in consciousness, he is not
going to get the body of a dog or cat; he will get another human body.
prapya punya-krtam lokan
usitva sasvatih samah
sucinam srimatam gehe
yoga-brasto 'bhijayate[16]
The word yoga-bhrastah refers to someone practicing yoga who
somehow or other could not fully succeed. There's no question of
evolution here; he is again awarded a human body. He does not get a
cat's body or a dog's body. As with the apartments we were discussing,
if you can pay more, you get a nicer apartment. You do not have to come
to the lower-class apartment first.
Dr. Singh. What you have been saying completely contradicts Darwin's
theory of evolution.
Srila Prabhupada. Darwin is a rascal. What is his theory? We kick out
Darwin's philosophy. The more we kick out Darwin's philosophy, the more
we advance in spiritual consciousness.
Dr. Singh. Many scientists doubt Darwin's theories. But Darwin's
supporters say that life started from matter and evolved from
unicellular organisms to multicellular organisms. They believe that
higher species like animals and men did not exist at the beginning of
creation.
Srila Prabhupada. Darwin and his followers are rascals. If originally
there were no higher species, why do they exist now? Also, why do the
lower species still exist? For example, at the present moment we see
both the intellectual person and the foolish ass. Why do both these
entities exist simultaneously? Why hasn't the ass form evolved upward
and disappeared? Why do we never see a monkey giving birth to a human?
The Darwinists' theory that human life began in such and such an era is
nonsense. Bhagavad-gita says that you can directly transmigrate to any
species of life you like, according to your efforts. Sometimes I travel
to America, sometimes to Australia and sometimes to Africa. The
countries already exist. I am simply traveling through them. It is not
that because I have come to America, I have createdor become America.
And there are many countries I have not yet seen. Does that mean they do
not exist? The scientists who support Darwin are nonsensical.
Bhagavad-gita clearly says that all the species exist
simultaneously, and that you can go to whichever species you like. You
can even go up to the kingdom of God, if you so desire. All this is
declared in Bhagavad-gita by Lord Krsna.
The Ninth Morning Walk
Recorded on May 13, 1973,
Srila Prabhupada is accompanied by Dr. Singh, Karandhara dasa adhikari
and other students.
Evolution From Human to Dog
Srila Prabhupada. The so-called scientists are putting their faith in a [ Pobierz całość w formacie PDF ]